August 02, 2004
"If the Republicans want to win black votes, why aren't they on BET?"
I get asked regularly about black outreach by conservatives in general and the GOP in particular.
One of the points that I insist on is covered by Jason Riley's piece for Opinion Journal("Dems Score With Blacks as GOP Forfeits the Game") last Friday.
We, as conservatives, allow liberals to dominate black media and by default, to define who and what we are to black America.
In most of the major radio markets, black radio dominates the dial. And among black radio, Tom Joyner rules the roost. His ABC-distributed program is amon the top draws not only in black radio, but in urban and suburban radio period. Joyner, a long-time radio veteran with extensive local market experience in Chicago and Dallas, holds court over a cornucopia of topics that he and his cohorts banter over, and they are frequently visited by phone or in person by newsmakers and commentators that maintain definite sway among black America. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Julian Bond and other newmakers are among Joyner's semi-regular guests; NPR and PBS talk show host Tavis Smiley is a regular weekly contributor.
Joyner hosts regular gatherings at Disney World, at festivals around the nation and on board a cruise ship once a year.
His show holds regular fund-raisers for historically black colleges around the nation, and he is a very outspoken advocate of "giving back" to the community.
His regular mantra now is to get George W. Bush out of office. And while Joyner's program has hosted several of the Democratic candidates for the presidency, his program has not hosted anyone from the GOP. While part of this can be attributed to Joyner and his compatriots on the air, an equally large part of that lack of exposure to a segment of black America that would not otherwise easily be reached lies with the GOP.
The visible communication sources in black America, from Joyner to Smiley on the radio, from BET to TVOne on television, and print sources ranging Johnson Publishing's Jet and Ebony to Earl Graves' Black Enterprise are continual wastelands for a conservative message and presence.
Oh, sure, writings from myself and other Project 21 members are there occasionally, but why don't we see the President there? Wh don't we see Condoleezza Rice or Colin Powell there? Why don'te we see John Ashcroft or Donald Rumsfeld there?
All those individuals will readily show up on Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh's bully pulpits, and that's not a bad thing -- it's always good to preach to the choir and the faithful among yor flock regularly.
But you won't expand your presence; expand your message unless and until you begin to step outside your comfort zone.
Going on black radio may not be easy or comfortable at first; a wariness that will exist on both sides. But as the ice is broken, as black America recognizes that this is not a matter or a means of being "used" or "pandered to" solely for the gain of votes, then both sides will begin to open up and to discover a common ground that truly exists, and discover that there not only is room but a necessity for a two-party system to exist within black America.
It will take work, but the long-standing antagonism that exists can be overcome.
(A nod to
Redstate for pointing out the
Opinion Journal piece)
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That is a valid point. I wonder if it is because of what happened with Clarence Thomas that these black conservatives might be a bit wary of showing up on these media outlets you listed?
Posted by: Lola at August 02, 2004 10:17 AM (V1eTE)
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I wonder do Jason Riley watch BET. I have never considered BET a good station and worthwhile to watch, but ABC,CBS and NBC aren't worthwile either. The blacks who really vote (that alleged 10 to 1 who vote in favor of the democrats), do they watch BET? Maybe, I'm not convinced they do. Speaking for myself, I vote and don't watch BET. My hat is off to P-Diddy if he can convince BET fans to vote for anybody. Was the NAACP Image Awards, NAACP Annual Convention, The NUL Convention and the Democratic Convention televised on BET? I think the real story here is that there are two medias one white and one black, the black media content for and support from the black community is problematic itself.
Posted by: michael at August 02, 2004 10:48 AM (4HGZ8)
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However, younger blacks DO watch BET in heavy numbers. Actually, 60% of black Americans watch BET at least once a week.
Given that (1) most black voters are now under age 35; and (2) more younger blacks are moving away from the Democratic Party and are open to certain GOP messages (e.g., school vouchers, Social Security privatization), there's an opportunity for the GOP here. I'll know the GOP is serious about black voters when I hear it on my local radio station or see it on BET.
Posted by: molotov at August 02, 2004 11:26 AM (h3FX8)
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On Tom Joyner: When J.C. Watts was in office, Watts was on the show a number of times.
On Tavis Smiley: Tavis had Watts, Larry Elder, and Ken Hamblin on his BET show. He regularly has Watts and "the actor who played the husband of one of the Cosby children" on his NPR radio show.
On BET: When BET had the weekly talking head show, they had Armstrong Williams. They were able to get Armstrong Williams after the head of the talk show stated publically, a number of times, that they invited the GOP leaders on the Sunday talk show but they always turned them down.
Bev Smith: When her show was on BET, she regularly had Ken Hamblin on the show. And despite the respect she showed Hamblin, Hamblin was guarenteed to show his ass, then go on his show and cry about the treatment on the show.
Posted by: DarkStar at August 02, 2004 01:12 PM (cnw1A)
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On TV One: I don't have that network, but when I reviewed their schedule, I saw that Armstrong Williams has a show on the network.
On Black talk radio: In the Baltimore-D.C. area, they have had conservatives, Black and white, and Republicans on their show. But the ones are the ones who seem to be regularly in Black media.
The Larry Young Morning Show? GOP representation at times.
WEAA talk shows? GOP/conservative representation shows up at times.
Armstrong Williams occurs regularly on the Russ Parr Morning Show.
On Black Enterprise: Mostly their articles address finances. Maybe 1 article every 3 months addresses Bush. Earl Grave's editorial piece may address the Bush administration every other month.
Ummm....
Your commentary doesn't add up.
Posted by: DarkStar at August 02, 2004 01:19 PM (cnw1A)
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The DC/Baltimore radio market is a definite anomaly as far as black conservatives are concerned.
In most cases, black radio hosts tend to sit back and let the callers beat up on the black conservative dujour (as has happened to me on Cliff Kelley's show on WVON Chicago a couple of weeks back, and twice in the past month on Elaine Jacques White's show on WAOR Atlanta).
Yes. We show up on C-Span off and on; we are brought out on Fox News Channel and MSNBC on occasion. We show up on nationally syndicated radio shows fairly regularly (Limbaugh, Hannity, Reagan, Savage, and that doesn't even count Hamblin and Elder's own shows). But what I'm talking about is more than mere tokenism (or "let's trundle out another black conservative to talk about the latest civil rights issue of the day").
Watts' semi-regular appearances along with Walter Williams' guest-hosting for Limbaugh (I really get a charge out of Williams when he has Thomas Sowell on) certainly reach a large audience. But they do not reach the mainstream black audience that the vehicles that I mention in this piece do.
Conservatives need to present a realistic face to black America. They need to show that they are not as antagonistic as they have been portrayed by the black elite who hold court in these venues.
The larger question is whether the Tom Joyners and Bev Smiths will be willing if and when the GOP hierarchy becomes serious (and no, sending Don King on a whistle-stop tour of urban America does not count as serious in my book) to present them with more than a wink and a nod to the audience -- a wink and nod that says "See, we're trying to be fair, we'll let the Uncle Toms in, then trash them once they're gone..."
Not only that, but the GOP needs to spend the dollars advertising within that medium as well. It's an easy matter to preach to the faithful. The more difficult -- and arguably more noble job is to preach to the unconverted and uninformed masses.
Posted by: mhking at August 02, 2004 03:02 PM (bJ0qq)
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I hear what Michael is saying but it may be rather problematic to think that a greater black conservative presence on media outlets will sway hearts and minds. It will not change much of anything. The liberal machine is a behemoth that permeates society and will always freeze out black conservatives. To fight such a behemoth will take massive countervailing power and deep pockets, which black conservatives do not have.
IMHO, black conservatives do not need to do anything more than they are doing now. What will help the cause is not more media appearances. There are already plenty of those. What will get black conservatives a fair hearing are 4 things:
1) THE HARSH SCHOOL OF TEARS. Many blacks are suffering from the results of liberal "assistance" -- from welfare dependency to broken homes to dismal school performance. As these harsh lessons continue more and more blacks will change their tune. Even liberal Cosby was moved to open his mouth recently. You will see more and more of this as the chaos in the black community continues, and the contempt of the larger society increases. What is needed is not mass enlightment, but rather a decent percentage that can split off from the rest of the tribal mass.
2) THE BLACK VOTE WILL BECOME INCREASINGLY IRRELEVANT. Many have put their faith in "the black vote" but with the rise of Hispanic, Asian and homosexual voting blocs, black votes are increasingly irrelevant for a Democrat win. Sure, blacks are good for some touching symbolism, and they may "top off" the vote in some areas, but as time goes on, IMHO, blacks will become increasingly irrelevant- irrelevant to the Democrats except around election and photo-op time, and irrelevant to the GOP, which has already began to seek greater exposure among Hispanics for example.
People are getting increasingly tired of blacks, even liberals. That's why things like AA are being rolled black and even liberals are not fighting hard over it. They know it is time to move on, and that blacks are increasingly a liability in reaching the center.
3) "TOUGH LOVE" POLICIES REGARDLESS OF LIBERAL BLACK PROTESTS WILL CONFIRM THE INFLUENCE OF BLACK CONSERVATIVES. As economic woes mount, and budgets decline, or if the GOP maintains power, they will increasingly implement the "tough love" policies that liberal blacks hate- vouchers, high educational standards, cessation of quotas, tough crime controls, reduced public spending on ineffective programs, etc. Many mock black conservatives lack of influence, but it is black conservatives who are increasingly having the last laugh. The work of Thomas Sowell for example has dealt body blows to the liberal vision. People have taken notice.
Moderate and conservatives politicans increasingly look with disfavor on black failure and dependency. Bush is doing it in education, and even Clinton signed off on welfare reform, dissed some black icons, and moved towards the political center. Black conservatives by all means should not water down their message in the quest for popularity. There are people listening and they will implement some of those "tough love" policies liberals hate. Then who's gonna be laughing?
4) BUILD INFLUENCE WITH BLACK INDIVIDUALS, SMALL SUB-GROUPS AND GRASSROOTS INITIATIVES. IMHO, Republicans should forget about mass appeals. They should shoot for a percentage by doing the things isted above. Focus on getting resources directly into the hands of individuals, sub-groups and grassroots initiatives like tutoring services run by churches or local anti-crime patrols. Over time this will split off a bigger percentage of the black vote and be a better use of the money rather than mass appeals.
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Posted by: Bec at August 02, 2004 04:40 PM (9raHr)
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In most cases, black radio hosts tend to sit back and let the callers beat up on the black conservative dujour
Dude. I'm turning into a talk show junkie. You know that happens with conservative shows as well. They let the callers blast the liberal guests and then really trash them after the conversation is over.
They need to show that they are not as antagonistic as they have been portrayed by the black elite who hold court in these venues.
I am not the Black elite, yet I can make a good case that says the image is one that Black conservatives, for the most part, present. Start with Hamblin who says it's fine to discriminate against Black radio. In other words, don't advertise on Black radio. Elder strongly implies that Blacks complain about racism and then do nothing. Meanwhile, he'll trot out the stats that show Black progress. There's a disconnect there. How can Blacks be progressing while at the same time, not doing anything but complaining. And then there's Jesse Lee Peterson. Come on, that man has ticked off Shawn Hannity with the outrageous comments that he's made.
On BET, Bev Smith gave a fair audience. Tavis Smiley does the same. His exchanges with Larry Elder and David Horrowitz have been interesting.
Not only that, but the GOP needs to spend the dollars advertising within that medium as well.
Yep.
Posted by: DarkStar at August 02, 2004 05:34 PM (cnw1A)
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BUILD INFLUENCE WITH BLACK INDIVIDUALS, SMALL SUB-GROUPS AND GRASSROOTS INITIATIVES
You only do that by going to the Black media and the Black groups.
The rest:
THE HARSH SCHOOL OF TEARS
THE BLACK VOTE WILL BECOME INCREASINGLY IRRELEVANT.
"TOUGH LOVE" POLICIES
As you expound on it, is silly, IMO.
The GOP talks about the "Hispanic" vote, but looking at the details shows that, outside of Florida, the "Hispanic" vote is strongly Democrat. Unless the GOP is willing to do the right thing, and shut down the free flowing borders, they are spelling trouble for themselves.
Next, the Black vote isn't irrelevent in major urban areas and won't be unless a major demographic shift occurs.
Frankly, you are the enemy of the Black conservatives.
Posted by: DarkStar at August 02, 2004 05:41 PM (cnw1A)
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Great post. I agree with you that Bush and other conservatives need to make their presence more known in African-American circles. It's kind of like a you-stay-there-I'll-stay-here relationship between Bush and black voters (as well as other minority groups). I would appreciate him reaching out more to minority communities.
Posted by: DeoDuce at August 02, 2004 08:56 PM (r6COr)
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Armstrong is too much of a professional polemic to actually
persuade the dubious.
J.C. always struck me as someone who, in his heart of hearts, was always just a teeny bit embarrassed to be a Republican (and the way he left after being snubbed by his party...? poor fella).
There's no point in trying to "infiltrate" Black media if you don't have the right weaponry. An effective ambassador would be someone who, while proud of his political allegiance, is also sensitive to well-earned community skepticism.
Someone thoughtful, even-tempered, well-spoken. Right now the only (famous) person I know who could fit the bill is Colin Powell. He gets much more respect now as he's (on a number of occasions) stepped out of line to speak his conscience. He's not a complete how-high soldier. Perhaps after his career is over in the Bush administration, he will do more media outreach.
In the meantime, as your compadre Avery Tooley has said,
it's time to get personally involved at the grassroots level, 'cause
that's where the action is.
Posted by: memer at August 03, 2004 04:59 AM (Dft9t)
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Michael, as you and I have discussed many times, there indeed is a common ground for those with differing political views. One of the things that must be discussed is the fact that while African-Americans are, for the most part, conservative, the direction that the Republican Party has taken in the past has scared a lot of people away from it. You have to remember that it was only with the 1932 election that our people started to vote the Democratic ticket. Up until that point, the Republicans were the ones who got Black votes. As late as the mid 1950's, Blacks were still voting for Republicans in decent numbers. It was with the Conservative swing of the party in the 1960's that Blacks really took to the Democrats. That trend continued when LBJ started the "War on Poverty" (well intentioned, but it got out of control). The so-called "black leaders" to whom you refer to, are definitely media creations in the sense that they usually provide a good sound bite and since no other people speak up, the rest of society is made to think that they speak for all of us. These people do not speak for me. I have been able to find that there some concepts that I can agree with from the Democrats as well as the Republicans. I think that there are a lot more of us Moderates out here than either party admits. In the end, most people trust neither of the political parties but, in order to have a seat at the table, they choose what they see as the lesser of two evils. It is an attitude that is not right and African-Americans should abandon this mind set before we become an afterthought to both major parties.
Posted by: Richard King at August 03, 2004 08:03 AM (b/7hi)
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We don't have time to lay back and wait for the "school of tears" to prove us right further. Being right shouldn't be our focus, being effective should be.. Giving up on folks is morally repugnant, violates the black church ethic.
Black conservatives and moderates must grow a damn backbone and take back our communities, offer up an alternative vision and implement it on the ground in communities.
Call me an optimist. That's why I disagree with the tactics of black conservatism, even though I agree with about 65% of the ideology. Too many black conservatives are glum about black folks' future, even though on most indicators we are making improvements. They thus reinforce the defeatism that they claim to want to eliminate. Where's the positivity? Can-do spirit?
Posted by: molotov at August 03, 2004 01:56 PM (h3FX8)
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Liberalism ain't the only worry here. Another issue that folks overlook: the rise of Islam in black America. If black conservatives and moderates don't get crackin' on taking back our communities via putting out an alternative vision and start implementing it
on the ground - especially to help out poorer blacks who've been left behind - then the Wahhabists
will.
Saudi Arabia in particular is pumping money to recruit poor black ex-cons, to fuel resentment and dissatisfaction. Here in Chicago, Muslim rap is on the rise in black communities. This is still nascent, but we must nip it
now. This ain't a scenario that I wanna see, and surely one that America doesn't want to see.
Posted by: molotov at August 03, 2004 02:04 PM (h3FX8)
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Another thing. Why are black conservatives waiting for mainstream black media to accept them? What's stopping folks from creating own media vehicles? Bill Buckley did in back in the 1960s, with the
National Review. Given that blacks have a $645.9 billion a year GDP, black conservatives can't pool resources and develop alternative media? Have more blogs, like many of us here do? Or go unfiltered, straight to black communities neighborhood by neighborhood? SOMETHING?
Posted by: molotov at August 03, 2004 02:12 PM (h3FX8)
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That's why I disagree with the tactics of black conservatism, even though I agree with about 65% of the ideology. Too many black conservatives are glum about black folks' future, even though on most indicators we are making improvements. They thus reinforce the defeatism that they claim to want to eliminate. Where's the positivity? Can-do spirit?
Hello!!!!!!!! That's been my point about Black conservatives whining.
What's stopping folks from creating own media vehicles?
Headway Magazine, started by the Richardsons, tried. But the magazine went belly up.
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August 01, 2004
Ridge raises threat level to ORANGE for NY, NJ & DC
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge announced this afternoon that the terror threat level for the "financial services sectors" of the US has been raised to ORANGE.
Specific targets include the World Bank/IMF in DC, the Prudential Building in Northern NJ, the NYSE and the Citigroup building in New York City. The method of attack would be truck and car bombs of varying destructive power.
Apparently there is specific information that has emerged in the past 24 to 36 hours regarding attacks to the economic infrastructure.
New York City has been at level Orange, or Very High level since 9/11, but the rest of the country's level has been raised and lowered several times since then. The country as a whole has most recently been at condition Yellow.
An attack on the financial infrastructure of the US would be devestating to the economy at best, but there's no additional information as to what heightened threat may exist for the public at large.
As the TV-types like to say, "Stay tuned."
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I wonder do Jason Riley watch BET. I have never considered BET a good station and worthwhile to watch, but ABC,CBS and NBC aren't worthwile either. The blacks who really vote (that alleged 10 to 1 who vote in favor of the democrats), do they watch BET? Maybe, I'm not convinced they do. Speaking for myself, I vote and don't watch BET. My hat is off to P-Diddy if he can convince BET fans to vote for anybody. Was the NAACP Image Awards, NAACP Annual Convention, The NUL Convention and the Democratic Convention televised on BET? I think the real story here is that there are two medias one white and one black, the black media content for and support from the black community is problematic itself.
Posted by: michael at August 02, 2004 10:44 AM (4HGZ8)
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Sorry, please disregard my previous post, it is in the wrong area.
Posted by: michael at August 02, 2004 10:50 AM (4HGZ8)
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Yesterday I asked my sister (who works in Manhattan) what the climate was like in New York City. "It's too dang hot," she responded. "If God says it's my day to die there's nothing I can do to stop it. If it's not my day to die there's nothing terrorists can to do speed my death along." Paraphrased of course. I hope the majority of the people in the Apple have her attitude.
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July 31, 2004
End of a career; end of an era
Iron Mike Tyson sat dazed, battered and bloodied on the canvas in Louisville last night after Brit Danny Williams laid him flat with a barrage of head shots that dropped the one-time "baddest man on the planet."
Tyson hit the ring for the first time in 17 months last night in an anticipated return to the sport. Tyson's out-of-ring troubles of late have been primarily financial, with his fortune gone in a spate of virtually throwing money away on his bad-boy activities. Recent stories claimed that Mike was living on the handouts of others, and that he needed this match to alleviate virtually millions in debt that he had accumulated.
Tyson came out for this fight at 233 pounds, the heaviest that he's been for a fight.
Tyson unloaded a battery of savage punches in the first round that rocked Williams and nearly took the British champion off his feet. But with each round following, Tyson's luster got duller and duller as Williams began to brawl toe-to-toe with Tyson.
Finally, at 2:51 in the fourth round, and after the unanswered barrage to Tyson's head, the former heavyweight champion staggered backward and went down hard. He sat in a daze as referee Dennis Alfred began to count. When Alfred got to five, he stopped a moment to get Williams to go to a neutral corner, but the extra time didn't help Tyson. Tyson began to try to stagger to his feet by the count of seven, but it was too late.
The fight, and arguably Tyson's career, was over.
The man only knows how to brawl. He cannot speak well. He has no other training, and thanks to both his own bad-boy activities and others who took advantage of him, Mike Tyson is broke.
Where does he go from here?
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Actually he wasn't at his heaviest. He fought Brian Neilsen at 239 1/2 and Lennox Lewis at 234.
Tyson's career was pretty much over before then. He hadn't fought in 17 months. As Felix Trinidad is about to find out, that layoff isn't something you can simply get over and be the same fighter you were before.
Posted by: Expertise at July 31, 2004 03:22 AM (YPiMo)
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Expect a form of the word "murder" and Tyson in a headline one day.
Unfortunately.
Posted by: DarkStar at July 31, 2004 03:46 AM (cnw1A)
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Tyson is essentially a 19 year old who've never mature beyond that age. At 19, he becomes the yongest champ ever. At 19 is also 'round the time his former guardian and mentor died, and he's essentially passed onto Don King. Yep, the worse thing that could've happened to him is Don King (I'm not absolving his inability to grow up, but King is truely a force of nature when it comes to sucking money).
So he went from a very regimented and focused boxing training to a bunch of yes-men. No wonder he had no need to grow up when you have so many leaches who sucked the last dime out of his bank account while saying everything he wants to hear. Training? What training?
It's sad to see someone so gifted in talent being waylaid by his own brain.
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Posted by: avery at July 31, 2004 07:40 AM (ZPcqd)
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Tyson is a thug, was a thug, will be a thug. Why is it that someone with talent in a single area can act absolutely terrible in all other areas of their lives and not be held accountable, in fact be idolized? Strawberry comes to mind, Rose, a slew of hip hoppers.... ye gads.
Posted by: GMRoper at July 31, 2004 08:58 AM (AaBEz)
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Tyson should join the French Foreign Legion.
Posted by: Cobb at July 31, 2004 12:01 PM (2n6gK)
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Williams was fighting for his life - no one *wants* to be dinner.
"Welcome to BurgerKing, may I take your order?"
Posted by: Deb at July 31, 2004 05:42 PM (6aoDM)
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Tyson's life essentially ended when D'Amato died. He's not smart, he's not even bright and he may have some mental problems. Without someone to look out for him he's hopeless.
Posted by: kimberley at August 01, 2004 04:53 PM (AaBEz)
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Well, he can go to K-1/Pride competition in Japan. He can start an acting career, etc..
Posted by: Stan LS at August 02, 2004 12:20 PM (D1dPA)
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Your last paragraph stung. I disagree that he was only a brawler. Not at all true when he was in his prime. He was a studious pupil of the sweet science when he was being managed by his original group and father figure. He knew how to defend, had patient, methodical ring saavy a-plenty and launched lightning-fast, precision bombs at his opponents. Really, look at the old tapes.
I also think it's an old boxer=stupid myth re Tyson's intelligence. Sure, he lacked a proper education, and I'm not saying he was any Einstein (tho who knows what kind of potential he had, really), but he was certainly no dumber than yer average blue-collar sanitation engineer. I've seen and read some rather thoughtful, insightful comments from him. Here're a few...
"I feel like sometimes that I was born, that I'm not meant for this society because everyone here is a f**king hypocrite. Everybody says they believe in God but they don't do God's work. Everybody counteracts what God is really about. If Jesus was here, do you think Jesus would show me any love? Do you think Jesus would love me? I'm a Muslim, but do you think Jesus would love me ... I think Jesus would have a drink with me and discuss ... why you acting like that? Now, he would be cool. He would talk to me. No Christian ever did that and said in the name of Jesus even ... They'd throw me in jail and write bad articles about me and then go to church on Sunday and say Jesus is a wonderful man and he's coming back to save us. But they don't understand that when he comes back, that these crazy greedy capitalistic men are gonna kill him again."
Mike, on his mother who died in 1982: "I never saw my mother happy with me and proud of me for doing something: She only knew me as being a wild kid running the streets, coming home with new clothes that she knew I didn't pay for. I never got a chance to talk to her or know about her. Professionally, it has no effect, but it's crushing emotionally and personally."
"Everyone in boxing probably makes out well except for the fighter. He's the only one that's on Skid Row most of the time; he's the only one that everybody just leaves when he loses his mind. He sometimes goes insane, he sometimes goes on the bottle, because it's a highly intensive pressure sport that allows people to just lose it [their self-control]."
"I'm the most irresponsible person in the world. The reason I'm like that is because, at 21, you all gave me $50 or $100 million, and I didn't know what to do. I'm from the ghetto. I don't know how to act. One day I'm in a dope house robbing somebody. The next thing I know, 'You're the heavyweight champion of the world.' ... Who am I? What am I? I don't even know who I am. I'm just a dumb child. I'm being abused. I'm being robbed by lawyers. I think I have more money than I do. I'm just a dumb pugnacious fool. I'm just a fool who thinks I'm someone. And you tell me I should be responsible?"
"I'm just a dark guy from a den of iniquity. A dark shadowy figure from the bowels of iniquity. I wish I could be Mike who gets an endorsement deal. But you can't make a lie and a truth go together. This country wasn't built on moral fiber. This country was built on rape, slavery, murder, degradation and affiliation with crime."
He was, as others have said, also painfully immature though. Your comment about other training, however, rings true. Mebbe he can do the Ben Johnson (ex-track and field god) thing and be a personal trainer for some rich Arab's son. He did alright in a movie I saw him in once (i forget the name, Brooke Sheilds was in it, playin ghetto filmographer or something). He's gotta have
some transferrable skillz (I hope, for his sake).
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July 30, 2004
Rounding up the usual suspects on Ketchup Boy's speech
Outside the Beltway and
Blogs for Bush have the best round-ups of John "Oompa Loompa" Kerry's speech last night from across the blogosphere.
I'll leave the list-making and punditry to them -- for now.
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July 29, 2004
Flash thoughts on Ketchup Boy's speech
"I'm John Kerry.....reporting for duty..."
I keep thinking about that old Tim Conway character. You know the one: "Floyd R. Turbo, 'Muricun." (followed by a cheap-looking salute)
He keeps talking about Vietnam like he did something major there. Let's see. He went in, promptly got "injured," went back in, got "injured" again, and third time out he came home -- all inside of four months.
He quietly ignores his protests against his "band of brothers" when he came home.
He also ignored his Senate votes against all military spending. And I won't even mention his blowing off all the votes this year so he could campaign.
Finally, his hands-and-knees style begging of the Bush team not to go negative along with his promise to keep to the "high road" -- right after trashing the GOP and the President six ways to Sunday.
The mark of desperation, indeed.
Oh. And what the heck was that about "hair pollution" in Harlem?
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Floyd R. Turbo was Johnny Carson. But the point is still valid.
Posted by: Tomp at July 30, 2004 03:27 AM (sAz/U)
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The hair pullution must be caused by all the grooming products The Good Hair Couple/Kedwards use, and their affinity for Final Net.
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I've got a somewhat humorous post on hair pollution. Click my name.
Posted by: spacemonkey at July 30, 2004 12:14 PM (DN55C)
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at least he went to vietnam unlike the chimp who went awol from the air national guard.
to those who lambast him for speaking out against the war. he went, fought and decided that what he saw appalled him and felt it was his duty to speak out.
correct me if i am wrong but a patriot is someone who loves his country and is prepared to fight to save it, even if the fight needs to bwe against what the state is doing. In anycase there is a little thing called freedom of speech. Bill O'Reiloly and his "we have a duty as loyal americans to shut the hell up" garbage.
Kerry has every right to bring up his vietnam record and should be proud of the fact that he had the guts to speak out against what he saw. whatever happend to the liberal ideals of the United States?
Posted by: Nick Saunders at July 31, 2004 09:29 AM (uxpr1)
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Kerry has every right to bring up his vietnam record
And we have every right to bring up his Senate record -- in which he really has been AWOL, especially the past 18 months.
He wants us to believe four months in Vietnam sums up his 61-year life. I call bullsh!t.
Posted by: McGehee at August 01, 2004 07:21 AM (WcMFl)
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"at least he went to vietnam unlike the chimp who went awol from the air national guard."
Well, you didn't address the points, of course. You wanted to go the route of comparing Kerry to Bush. Unfortunately you followed with a vicious ad hominem ("chimp") and a bald-faced lie ("went AWOL").
I suppose you hope that if you repeat the lie enough that at least
somebody might believe it, but I don't think that dishonesty has a place in legitimate debate, Nick.
"to those who lambast him for speaking out against the war. he went, fought and decided that what he saw appalled him and felt it was his duty to speak out."
Nobody is lambasting Kerry for speaking against the war. Plenty of people spoke out against the war and never lost credibility.
What John Kerry did was go to Vietnam, get three Purple Hearts for "wounds" that didn't even require Band-Aids, then come home and tell a bunch of lies about our soldiers being "war criminals" and committing atrocities as a matter of course,
including himself.
When the soldiers came home they were not welcomed with open arms, they were called "baby killers", thanks to the propaganda that Kerry, Jane Fonda and their ilk were able to persuade some Americans with.
correct me if i am wrong but a patriot is someone who loves his country and is prepared to fight to save it, even if the fight needs to bwe against what the state is doing."
Sounds good to me. But I'd suggest doing it honestly.
Years ago there was TV anti-drug spot that showed normal brainwaves, and the brainwaves of someone high on pot. The "pot brainwaves" were almost flat-lined. When pro-legalization folks pointed out that this was a fraud, that marijuana produces MORE active alpha brainwaves, the people who created the ad said
"Well, yeah, we know. But we did it anyway because the anti-drug message was just too important."
I don't how much you want to make a case, be it against pot smoking or the Vietnam war, you don't spin a web lies to do it, m'kay?
"In anycase there is a little thing called freedom of speech. Bill O'Reiloly [sic] and his "we have a duty as loyal americans to shut the hell up" garbage."
Of course, John Kerry has a freedom of speech, and so does everyone else. We will freely "lambast" him for his freely spoken lies. That's the American way.
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"Kerry has every right to bring up his vietnam record and should be proud of the fact that he had the guts to speak out against what he saw."
But not what he made-up for the sake of his cause.
"whatever happend to the liberal ideals of the United States?"
They're right here. Welcome home!
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Cartoon Network to pick up animated The Boondocks
From
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THE BOONDOCKS (FOX) - Cartoon Network is reportedly finalizing a deal to pick up the failed FOX pilot presentation from Sony Pictures Television, based on the comic strip by Aaron McGruder of the same name. The animated series chronicles the clash of cultures that ensues when two youths from inner-city Chicago, Riley and Huey, move to the suburbs to live with their grandfather. McGruder and Reggie Hudlin are the executive producers of the project.
On the rare occasion that McGruder isn't busy bashing conservatives, "The Boondocks" can actually be funny.
I don't hold out any hope that he'll stay away from controversy here though.
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I know a lot of conservatives who think the Boondocks is funny. (I concur that McGruder tends to lose the humor when he beats the audience over the head with the point.)
Ever hear of a liberal who enjoyed Cox & Forkum?
Posted by: Gib at July 29, 2004 11:11 AM (PsC2M)
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I'm moderate-conservative, and I enjoy "Boondocks" (although I clearly don't always agree with it). President Bush's "ghetto-fabulous" TV ad targeting black voters was funny.
The best line was in 2000 or so, when MacGruder wrote in a strip that "Bush couldn't even lead OJ to a white woman." Politically incorrect punchline and foul to Bush, but funny.
Posted by: molotov at July 29, 2004 04:36 PM (h3FX8)
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I'm having a hard time seeing if/how this will work. I mean, how many anti-Conservative jokes can be relayed in a 30-minute stint? We'll see. Agreed, when the work isn't seeped in bitterness and hatress, there's some funny gems in there. The guy's definitely got talent.
Posted by: Ambra Nykol at July 30, 2004 06:35 AM (ckmB1)
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The comments are funny.
He slams Blacks who buy into hip-hop silly behaviors more than he's going against conservatives.
And he surely slams liberals as well.
Posted by: DarkStar at July 31, 2004 03:48 AM (cnw1A)
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And he surely slams liberals as well.
Because they're not radical enough.
Posted by: McGehee at August 01, 2004 07:19 AM (WcMFl)
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Its set for October...a long whiles away
Posted by: Shun at January 04, 2005 05:10 PM (ywZa8)
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I enjoy reading this comic and thing it will make a very funny show. I always read their comic and was shocked to see this on a adult swim bump.
Posted by: Onizuka at April 24, 2005 09:29 PM (BSWHy)
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I never really thought the strip was all that funny, witty or even clever. How hard is it to re-iterate verbage you've already heard? It's funny how Mcgruder makes fun of Bush's ignorance, when he oozes of ignorance himself. Believe me, this guy's head is bigger than the characters on his strip! I hope they cancel his show. As a consolation, they should buy him some humility!
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Bob Edwards leaving NPR for new digs at XM
Long-time Morning Edition host Bob Edwards, who was unceremoniously (and inexplicably) dumped as host of that show in April, is leaving National Public Radio
for a new morning show deal at Washington-based satellite broadcaster XM.
The Bob Edwards Show, will be flagship of a new channel for XM (XM Channel 133, premiering 9/1).
Though public radio stations are not sampled for Arbitron ratings, the 57 year-old Edwards was arguably the most listened-to host on morning radio across the nation. The nearly 25 year-old Morning Edition has had a long-time following with Edwards as it's original host.
Edwards was "promoted" to "Senior Correspondent" for NPR at the end of April, but he holds no grudge against his "former home." On the other hand, he's excited at the new opportunity.
"They want to give me a program, so I can continue to host and be heard every day instead of occasionally, as I would have been at NPR," Edwards said Tuesday while driving around Maine as part of a three-month book tour/public radio fundraising effort that ends this weekend."It's also new. It's like being at NPR when I joined NPR in 1974. It was less than three years old -- as old as XM is now. I get to be a pioneer again. How often does someone get that opportunity twice?"
The Bob Edwards Show will air at 8AM to 9AM on XM, and re-air immediatly afterwards.
The new show will anchor a new channel of public radio-style programming, some coming from XM, and some coming from other producers, like Public Radio International, American Public Media (an arm of Minnesota Public Radio) and WBUR in Boston.
Edwards is presently on a book tour promoting his recently published, Edward R. Murrow and the Birth of Broadcast Journalism, on the history of the medium.
An XM radio unit that can go from home to car runs around $99; monthly service from XM is less than $10 per month.
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I miss Bob Edwards. He was my alarm clock for so many years. So glad to hear he has found a new job and is available through XM. (BTW-- I just discovered your blog a couple of weeks ago and it's great. You have a fresh, independent voice with just enough sarcasm that your site has risen already to a spot in my collection of 10 best.)
Posted by: CeCe at July 29, 2004 07:57 AM (vCz74)
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Thank heavens XM was smarter than NPR, and gave him a slot so I don't have to start the morning without him. His show is now almost a year old (the “official” anniversary is October 4), and if you subscribe to XM it’s aired every weekday on XMPR Channel 133 at 8AM ET, repeats at 9AM ET, 10AM ET, 8PM ET, and the next morning at 7AM ET. Also streams all day on XM Radio Online, and the entire week "loops" over the weekend.
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July 28, 2004
Crazy Al bitter over 40 acres & a mule
Al Sharpton veered away from the "approved" version of his speech before the Democratic National Convention tonight, and according to an interveiw he gave to ABC News Now after his speech, Sharpton claimed that he was trying to respond to the challenge that President Bush made to black voters last week.
In last week's speech, President Bush asked if the Democratic Party took black votes for granted. Sharpton delivered a stinging rebuke to the GOP in general and the President in particular.
"Our vote is not for sale," Sharpton exclaimed.Sharpton told ABC News Now, ABC News' digital cable and Internet service, he wanted Bush to know the Democratic Party "has actually earned" African-American votes.
"Mr. President, I heard you say you had questions for voters, particularly African-American voters. And you said the Democratic Party takes us for granted. You said the Republican Party was the party of Lincoln and Frederick Douglass," he said.
"It is true that Mr. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. We were promised 40 acres and a mule. We never got the 40 acres. Â… We didn't get the mule. So we decided we would ride this donkey as far as it would take us."
Crazy Al was supposed to speak for six minutes, but he sermonized for 23 minutes, throwing the Dems schedule off for what was suppsoed to be John Kerry-running mate John Edwards' "coming out party"
Hey, Al! I don't need, nor do I want your 40 acres!
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mhking, Al Sharpton is doing just what I want him to do, sabotage the DNC. I'm shocked they let him speak. I like Al. Always like his passion (though wrong-headed at times).
Posted by: S-Train at July 28, 2004 07:43 PM (FBz/S)
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AL has nerve to called himself answering for afro americans. Al is only speaking for himself. Where do Jesse and he get the idea that black america has put them in charge or represent us. They have outlived their usefulness to the democrats and can help black america by shutting up.
Posted by: michael chadwell at July 29, 2004 12:08 AM (3RYCw)
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Hmmph. What would I do with a mule these days? I demand a Rolls Royce! And these 40 acres better have rich, fertile soil . . .
Posted by: Lola Lee at July 29, 2004 12:19 AM (pHF7u)
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http://expertise.blogdrive.com
Posted by: Expertise at July 29, 2004 05:28 AM (fyt6/)
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To extend Sharpton's analogy a bit, he may not have gotten the mule, but he did settle for being quite the jackass.
Just a thought.
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Pakistani hostages murdered by AQ
From
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Militants have executed two Pakistani hostages they were holding in Iraq, says Al-Jazeera television. The group, calling itself the Islamic Army in Iraq, announced it had kidnapped two Pakistanis working for US forces and had sentenced them to death because their country was discussing sending troops to Iraq.
In a new videotape sent to the station the men said they had carried out their threat, the station reported.
The newsreader said the video showed the corpses of the two men, however the station did not show the footage.
The kidnapped men were identified by Pakistan as engineer Raja Azad, 49, and driver Sajad Naeem, 29.
The group said it had released the Iraqi driver, Omar Khaled Selman, after it was clear he had been duped by the Pakistanis.
You can thank Philippines president Gloria Arroyo for making AQ bolder.
Those AQ goons need to die. Quickly.
Message to the US military: Faster, please.
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Cheers from Iraq!
"Those AQ goons need to die. Quickly.
Message to the US military: Faster, please."
Jeez, guy! We're killing them as fast as we can, but they won't freakin' hold still! They're like cockroaches...fast little buggers. Seems like for every one you get, there are 3 or 4 more that you have to get later...
We'll try harder. Promise. Send more bullets.
Posted by: Chuck at July 28, 2004 01:24 PM (3tJTV)
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i agree with your comments and remain disgusted that the "world" does not make the same call. there is no country that is not at risk.
the current state of terrorism in the world rminds me of the IRA mindset and i don't know how it is stopped unless we employ the same tactics the british used in dublin. it has to get a lot worse until it gets any better. until the decision is made to win this war, progress will be slow if at all.
Posted by: scott holmes at July 28, 2004 01:39 PM (dRv2H)
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The IRA question was resolved thanks largely to two thinks.
1. The British government addressed the genuine grievances of the Irish Republicans. They were offered a deal whereby they were allowed to participate in a Northern Irish assembly paving way for a possible referendum on the addition of the Northern provinces to a united Irish republic. In return they were required to start a process of decomissioning their weapons.
2. Thanks to Bill Clinton American support and funding for the bombing of londeners and the attacks on British troops was ended. In part forcing the IRA and Sinn Fein to the negotiating table.
The IRA proves quite comprehensively that when faced with a group with a genuine grievance violence does not work. It exascerpates the problem. Sensible negotiation is the ONLY way.
Now i have little time for al quaida and like the MAJORITY in Britain and Europe i was disgusted and sickened by 9/11 and actually applauded Bush when he stood in the rubble and said "and the whole world is gonna hear from all of us very soon". However the current middle east situation is unacceptable and has given AQ a huge pool of people willing to kill themselves and others. fairly address the Israe/Palestine sitaution and much (not all) of the problem will go away.
IT WORKED FOR US.
incidentally recognising Israel ended another terrorist problem for Britain in 1948. Blowing up Tel Aviv which we nearly did in 1948 would not have done any good at all.
Posted by: Nick Saunders at July 29, 2004 04:11 AM (l/8IN)
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Nick,
I think that there is a big difference between the IRA and al Q. The IRA wasn't interested in killing themselves and didn't deliberately do so.
They had grievances that could be addressed, alQ doesn't. al Q and their ilk wants to kill off all non Moslems and Moslems who are not toeing the line of their ideals for their religion. They are willing, even eager, to die in the process.
There is no way to reason with these creatures. They are not open to negotiation. They have said so. The only solution is to kill every damn one of them for they will surely try to kill us if we don't.
I've sat and looked at the last sentence above, thinking of how I should edit it or restate it but I can't think of a way to edit the truth. I'm not a blood-thirsty person and I know that war is a horrible thing, but I have seen what they have in mind for us and I regret that there is only the solution I have stated above.
They will make every attempt to destroy us and our civilization. If they cannot bring down buildings around us they will cut our heads off one by one, given the chance. Regretfully, there is no other solution to this which faces us.
I am grateful and humbled by the fine young people who are serving us in this cause and regret that it couldn't have been taken care of when I was serving.
Posted by: StinKerr at July 31, 2004 06:01 PM (0aiy7)
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DNC - Boston observations at half time
No, I'm not in Boston, but from out here in the hinterlands with the "unwashed masses," we are getting images and sounds from Beantown, and wondering whether or not we should turn the channel over to the new episode of
Nip/Tuck or stay with this train wreck.
Syndicated KABC radio host Larry Elder scored an interview with comedian and Air America host Janeane Garofalo yesterday.Though the interview was short, Garofalo pulled out her entire arsenal of verbal assaults (Conservatives are bigots, Ashcroft is violating the Constitution, et. al.). When she couldn't make headway with the "Sage of South Central," she pulled out her hole card: accusing Elder of being a Republican shill, and a black man who's lost his way, and not thinking with his own mind.
Leave it to the leftists to resort to personal insults when logic can't be overcome.
ABC News Now, the digital tv/cable/online channel that ABC is running their long-form news on is actually pretty good!Yes, I have to stomach Peter Jennings' personal comments and biases, but other than that, the coverage has been pretty even-handed so far.
My only complaint? Hewlett-Packard has more ads than that damned Toys-R-Us ad that gets played at least 10 times per hour! I realize that HP is paying for ad space, but play some of HP's other frazzlin' ads, why don't ya!?
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Fatass invites W to screening of F9/11 in Crawford
Michael "Flatulence Unleashed" Moore
has invited President George W. Bush to a screening of his propaganda film
Fahrenheit 9/11 in Crawford, TX, not far from the Bush Ranch.
Moore extended the invitation on his website.
If you graciously accept my invitation, I will also have the chance to thank you personally for being one of my Axis of Actors who star in the film (along with your Vice President and your Attorney General). And let's face it -- you've got the funniest lines in the film! We may even have an audience reading of "My Pet Goat" to celebrate "Fahrenheit 9/11" breaking through the $100 million mark at the box office.Thank you for considering this invitation, and enjoy your vacation, for however long it may last.
I guess it makes sense for Moore to have some grace about it -- after all, bashing Republicans has made him a very rich white man (ironically that breed that he rails on against).
Quiet as it's kept, I think the Prez ought to take him up on on it. The attention alone is probably worth five to seven points at the polls.
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"Quiet as it's kept, I think the Prez ought to take him up on on it. The attention alone is probably worth five to seven points at the polls."
Great observation, and probably not far off the mark!
Posted by: RS at July 28, 2004 05:35 AM (JQjhA)
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Oh, geez. Perhaps, Bush could bring with him a couple of Iraqis who lost their loved ones to the death camps?
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July 27, 2004
Teresa Heinz-Ketchup's speech yanked from alphabet networks
CBS, ABC & NBC, already down to one hour of Democratic National Convention coverage per night this week, have colletively
decided to pull the plug on Teresa Heinz-Kerry's speech tonight.
Teresa is drawing what Democrats feel is undue attention to herself after her "shove it" crack to a Pittsburgh newspaper reporter this past weekend, and her statements about Ted Kennedy in a previously published book.
Ted Kennedy I don't trust either.I think he's a perfect bastard.
Teresa will speak, but if you want to see it, you'll have to watch the news networks or C-Span to catch it.
She's under strict instructions to follow the script for the speech as it's written, and not to ad lib or extemporize. Let's see if she knows how to follow instructions.
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I think it's Olver responding back in my comments, since the original comment refered to me by the wrong name. He likes to engage in such superficial things to derail or obscure any demonstrations of his incompetence.
And the comment itself is just further demonstration of his inability to analyse.
Posted by: Laurence Simon at July 27, 2004 06:44 AM (iE+3m)
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I'll be live blogging the prime-time speeches as well--however much PBS decides to air, anyway.
Posted by: Beck at July 27, 2004 12:02 PM (fllfQ)
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If this woman should become First Lady, she would make Hillary Clinton look like Jackie Kennedy by comparison. At least Hillary kept her profane rants INSIDE the WH.
Posted by: Indigo at July 27, 2004 04:27 PM (shQXa)
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Teresa was practicing her french so she can be the intermediary when John Heinz Kerry gives away the US to France and UN!
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July 26, 2004
Oompa Loompas were sighted at NASA this week...
"Mr. Kerry? I have Mr. Dukakis on the phone for you..."
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I've seen enough photos of Kerry looking silly that by now I've decided his PR people are republicans.
And how about his pitching at the weekend game?
Posted by: Fausta at July 26, 2004 02:39 PM (WhoVr)
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OK.
*THAT* one is funny!
Posted by: DarkStar at July 26, 2004 04:20 PM (cnw1A)
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OH. MY. GOD.
BAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha....*cough*
Posted by: Beck at July 26, 2004 08:31 PM (fllfQ)
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There's another photo up at Instapundit, via Times. Ergh . . .
Posted by: Lola Lee at July 27, 2004 12:41 AM (pHF7u)
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http://www.livejournal.com/community/conservatism/1342162.html?thread=20309458#t20309458
heh
Posted by: Anon at July 27, 2004 05:31 AM (9O0ur)
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If their convention is broadcast in Wonkavision, they'll have the chocoholic vote sealed up. Better get Zogby to figure out the impact of that, stat.
Posted by: jon at July 27, 2004 05:53 AM (VnER7)
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"John Kerry emerges from his mother's womb."
Posted by: Sterling at July 27, 2004 06:11 AM (eKeyE)
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Really now, who cares? I think the big story would have been if he refused to take the NASA tour because he'd have to wear a silly-looking suit. Real news, please.
Posted by: randy at July 27, 2004 06:19 AM (wH5KZ)
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Not as funny as Prezident ChickenHawk's Flight suit, though.
Posted by: erg at July 27, 2004 07:12 AM (ZPUG4)
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Re: Kerry pitching, see http://www.jenmartinez.com/mt/archives/2004_07.php#001140
Posted by: Tony at July 27, 2004 07:29 AM (tjFjH)
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Um, erg, not to interrupt your sweet dreams, but the W flight suit pics drove libs nuts because he looked confident, manly and as I was told by many women, hot. The new Kerry as Woody-playing-a- sperm pics drive libs nuts because he looks like a big frikkin' dork on the eve of his Boston debutante ball/cotillion.
One thing never changes though: libs=nuts.
Posted by: Mr. Dart at July 27, 2004 08:00 AM (vqWtn)
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Teresa would be perfect as the girl that turned into the blueberry.
Posted by: Bill Roggio at July 27, 2004 08:02 AM (k9rhx)
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Maybe he needs the suit to dig into Bergler's boxers for the missing documents.
Posted by: clark at July 27, 2004 08:56 AM (ggfiY)
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These idiots in the Dem PR Handling outfit still haven't figured it out. Costumes don't work. Kerry would probably look comfortable in military parade dress, because he's worn it before.
W looked fantastic in his flight suit because he's worn it before.
Playing "dress up" always makes people uncomfortable, like Democrats at their convention. You can see and nearly feel their barely controlled facade waver as they speak to the various networks, the veneer of civility slipping.
Kerry is wearing a veneer of "all things to all people," and he doesn't look the part because he's never done it before. Before, it was "all things to John Kerry."
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Posted by: Fausta at July 27, 2004 10:14 AM (WhoVr)
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"Prezident Chickenhawk's flight suit"
Bush looked like he belonged in that flight suit because he did. Dukakis (to keep the military theme) looked like Snoopy in that tank because he had as much business being in a tank as Snoopy. Kerry, pfeh.
You know what you got, erg? You got NOTHING. Just pre pubescent playground trash talk you poopy head. HA! take that!
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Posted by: marty at July 27, 2004 01:39 PM (3uchb)
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Dukakis was a tank driver in the army, Lee.
Bush, well, you do keep hearing abouutt his ANG service...
Posted by: colereux at July 27, 2004 04:43 PM (hGM8R)
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Teresa (holding the phone) - John,darlink, this is for you. Some guy by name Woody Allen. Wants you to be in his next movie.
Posted by: Herman at July 27, 2004 08:00 PM (O2Trp)
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BOSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM
Kerry is so pathetic, he makes Dukakis look statesmanlike.
Posted by: Konrad at July 27, 2004 08:40 PM (6BGUf)
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Kerry has already had a few campaign crushing "Dukakis Moments" such as crashing into a Secret Service Agent on the slopes and then unleashing a string of obsenities on this man who has vowed to protect him or when he flipped off a Vietnam Vet at the memorial in front of a group of school children. However, the partisan media has been very careful not to cover his flubs so as not to repeat the Massachusetts Jinx. I suspect you won't see much of this in the media either. Thank God for site like this.
Posted by: PK at July 28, 2004 08:44 PM (/OtPI)
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It is the typical and fitting pix of a flip-flopper who took a camera into the military service to film his own heroic acts yet blew up a bag of rice in a sampan and got a purple heart for the grain of rice that stuck in his ass. His platform is to give away America to the UN and France. And he wants to be President! God Forbid!
Posted by: Joe Prince at July 29, 2004 08:31 AM (Qio+e)
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Oompa Loompa doompadee doo
I've got another waffle for you
Oompa Loompa doompadah dee
If you are wise you won't vote for me
What do you get from a war with VC?
A nick and a cut and a medal or three
Why don't you try simple diplomacy?
Or could you just not export democracy?
You'll get no
You'll get no
You'll get no
You'll get no
You'll get no procurements!
Oompa Loompa Doompadee Dah
If you marry rich you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa
Oompa Loompa doompadee do
Posted by: American Kafir at July 29, 2004 08:46 AM (PcgQk)
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Willy Wonka jailed over photo leak.
www.right-wingattackmachine.com has the story
Posted by: Chris at July 30, 2004 05:28 PM (AaBEz)
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If they could only get Omar the Tent Maker to make Michael Moore one of these suits... After a few minutes, the hot air inside would propel Mr. Moore into the atmosphere, where he belongs.
Posted by: AndyR at August 05, 2004 10:57 AM (AGz7L)
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Note to ERG: Bush really did fly jets (Very well according to his training officer). But the question is: Did Kerry really spend time in space or was he just spaced out in Willy Wonka Land?
Posted by: dennyR at August 05, 2004 12:16 PM (bdcxv)
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concerning Kerry: phoney photo ops don't make a good potential president. I have never seen so many silly staged photos of "sporty jock-shots" in any candidate.--GET REAL NIT-WIT!!! You don't fool anyone with the wind surfing stunt etc. and you look extra silly in the "oompa suit."
Posted by: karen R at August 08, 2004 03:05 PM (DY2wC)
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Posted by: rbc at January 17, 2005 04:28 PM (sdkPH)
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he looks alot like my friend tom i think it may have been him
Posted by: Daniel Clarke at February 07, 2005 06:53 AM (HTTxf)
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I would have to agree with Daniel Clarke when he said he looks a lot like Tom G.
Posted by: Suze at February 08, 2005 07:14 AM (yue4c)
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Iowa First Lady Christie Vilsack's husband Tom almost became John Kerry's running mate.
A new flap is coming to light involving comments by Christie Vilsack that, while Democrats are falling all over themselves try to spin the statements in a different light, John Kerry must be sending up prayers of thanks that he didn't pick Governor Vilsack as his running mate.
The Boston Herald has uncovered a 1994 editorial by Ms. Vilsack that derides blacks and those people from the South as being "bad speakers."
``I am fascinated at the way some African-Americans speak to each other in an English I struggle to understand, then switch to standard English when the situation requires,'' Vilsack wrote in a 1994 column in the Mount Pleasant News, while her husband, Tom, was a state senator. Vilsack wrote that southerners seem to have ``slurred speech,'' wrote that she'd rather learn Polish than try to speak like people from New Jersey, and wrote that a West Virginian waitress once offered her friend a ``side saddle'' instead of a ``side salad.''
The future Iowa first lady seemed to be promoting English as the nation's official language, an issue that tripped up her husband, Gov. Tom Vilsack, with many Democrats.
Vilsack's Aug. 24, 1994, column was particularly critical of dialects from other regions of the country. In addition to the knock on African-Americans, Vilsack knocked residents of New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
"Later, on the boardwalk, I heard mothers calling to their children, `I'll meet yoose here after the movie,' '' she wrote. "The only way I can speak like residents of New Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania is to let my jaw drop an inch and talk with my lips in an 'O' like a fish. I'd rather learn to speak Polish.''
Two years later, in a column about her trip to the Olympics in Atlanta, Vilsack said she had "language problems.''
"When I ask for directions, I can't understand the slurred speech of southern Americans, who are so polite and eager to please,'' Vilsack said.
The Kerry campaign has referred all questions regarding Vilsack to the Democratic National Convention Committee.
This could become problematic for the Democrats, as Ms. Vilsack is set to speak before the convention in prime time tomorrow night.
And as for her trip to our great Southern Empire down here in 1996? Asking directions here is easy: They all begin with "You start out on Peachtree St...."
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...then you hang a left at the second cow, drive across Murdoc field, and you're there..."
Posted by: Beck at July 26, 2004 02:27 PM (fllfQ)
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Yo, Christie, yoose got some sort of atetude.
Posted by: J_Crater at July 26, 2004 05:44 PM (uQU0D)
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You sure are right about that Peachtree Street thing. What's up with that, anyway?
Posted by: Amy Ridenour at July 26, 2004 08:24 PM (JJhRX)
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Ms. Vilsack is being chastised by her party for telling the truth? I didn't see any defamations or exaggerations in the quotes. PC is destroying American diversity which, IMO, should be embraced and preserved. We're losing something precious and irreplaceable here, folks.
Southern WASP
Posted by: Indigo at July 29, 2004 02:19 PM (shQXa)
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New 24-hour ABC News, with even more bias for you!
Twice before, ABC tried to pull off an "all news" television channel, the first time was the aborted "Satellite News Channels" concept that would have been prime competition for the the fledgeling CNN had they been able to pull it off back in the early 80s. The "All
World News Now, All The Time" format (lovingly called "FRED" by insiders) was another concept they toyed with in the mid 90s until NBC & Fox beat them to the punch (by launching MSNBC & Fox News Channel respectively).
Now ABC is finally stepping out by using multiple platforms to launch ABC News Now (Or as I've dubbed it, ANN). The new channel started this morning and will carry gavel-to-gavel coverage of the Democratic National Convention (hosted by Peter Jennings, Terry Moran & Mark Halpern), and 24 hour-a-day news and documentary programming from now until the November elections.
The channel is available in several formats: via digital cable on some cable systems, via one of the secondary digital signals on a number of ABC's HDTV affiliates, via Real Networks' SuperPass Service ($9.95/month), via your cellphone if you have Sprint/PCS' MobiTV service, or for free from your desktop if you have high-speed internet service via AOL, Comcast.net, SBC/Yahoo or BellSouth (I've got access via the latter).
ABC has promised to keep the 24/7 signal up through Election Day in November, but undoubtedly, if there is a reasonable viewing audience, the signal may stay beyond that.
Already today, PJ has been on, interviewing other reporters from ABC, and from print and online media, all of which are touting this as a breakthrough in the type of coverage available.
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Let me see if I've got this straight: ABC gets into cable news 20 years late, and it's a "breakthrough."
If I were CNN, I'd feel kind of like an Indian watching Columbus claim to have "discovered" America...
Posted by: McGehee at July 26, 2004 10:15 AM (WcMFl)
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I wonder how much $$$ they're sinking into this venture.
Posted by: Lola at July 26, 2004 11:30 AM (V1eTE)
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July 25, 2004
Black churchgoer to Kerry: "Sit down, you phony!"
John Kerry continued to
court the black vote as he made a stop in a Columbus, OH church today.
While Kerry continued to tout his message of sharing a "common future, hopes and dreams," Bishop Timothy Clarke of the nondenominational First Church of God refused to endorse Kerry or President Bush in the race for the White House. Clarke only encouraged the more than 2,000, mostly black parishioners to register and vote.
When Kerry was introduced, one parishioner wasn't impressed.
Kerry's introduction drew a protest from one member who stood and shouted, "Sit down ... you big phony," before he was hustled out clutching a Bible.
Kerry also used his speech to throw a jab at President Bush.
"It is written, what does it mean my brother if you have faith if there are no deeds? Faith without works is dead," he said, a subtle slap at Bush without mentioning the president's name.
Subtle? About as subtle as a two-by-four upside the head.
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"I believe life does begin at conception."
"Faith without works is dead,"
Monseigneur Kerry seems to have multiple personality disorder.
Posted by: Deb at July 25, 2004 12:11 PM (6aoDM)
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Who in blazes does he think he is? Having a church member thrown out?? I'm glad I don't have to explain his actions to God.
Posted by: Denise at July 25, 2004 09:53 PM (PcgQk)
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I wonder how long they searched through a scripture database to find a) an appropriate passage and b) something with "my brother" in it.
Posted by: Joel (No Pundit Intended) at July 26, 2004 05:31 AM (iGAEH)
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Read The Weekely Standard article
John Kerry Is Different From You And Me; the most Kerry ever gave to charity was $2,039 in 1994. In the senate, "he has spent almost 2 decades . . . yet has no major items of legistation to his name", according to this week's
Economist
Faith without works is dead, alright.
Posted by: Fausta at July 26, 2004 05:36 AM (WhoVr)
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I don't understand why he continues to use one of the most devisive passages that divide the Roman Catholic Church from the Protestant denominations ?
Posted by: J_Crater at July 26, 2004 05:49 PM (uQU0D)
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Crater,
He just doesn't know.
Posted by: Lee at July 27, 2004 11:09 AM (5Ao1W)
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July 24, 2004
Star Wars Episode III title revealed!
The
title was revealed to a packed audience Saturday afternoon at the San Diego Comicon.
starwars.com is pleased to announce that Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith is the full title of the next Star Wars film, scheduled for release on May 19, 2005.
The Sith are masters of the dark side of the Force and the sworn enemies of the Jedi. They were all but exterminated by the Jedi a thousand years ago, but the evil order continued in secrecy. They operated quietly, behind the scenes, acting in pairs - a Master and an Apprentice - patiently biding their time before they could take over the galaxy. In Episode III, they'll finally exact their revenge on the Jedi.
My inner geek is pleased.
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Sounds like something that happened to me in Latvia!
Posted by: Joel (No Pundit Intended) at July 24, 2004 07:40 PM (dcTD7)
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Considering the leader in the clubhouse was "Birth of the Empire, I'm fine with this title.
Posted by: frinklin at July 24, 2004 08:53 PM (7VjNn)
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When do you think the line will start? After all, it's only 10 months away!!
Posted by: Denise at July 24, 2004 11:56 PM (b/7hi)
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Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith
Or, as it will be known in the inevitable shorthand, "Star Wars ROTS."
George Lucas used to be better at marketing than that.
Posted by: McGehee at July 25, 2004 01:29 AM (WcMFl)
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Oddly enough, the original name of "return of the jedi" was "revenge of the jedi", and it had pretty much the same red-on-black splash. They changed it because it sounded too negative.
I've still got that t-shirt, somewhere.
Posted by: Rube at July 25, 2004 12:06 PM (cGpdg)
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At least dyslexics can derive some entertainment value from this, unlike those of us who've been burned by Lucas one time too many.
Posted by: Alan S. at July 26, 2004 12:02 PM (1rBjx)
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Weekly Conservative Brotherhood roundup
This week, the
Conservative Brotherhood has been busy (as usual), on a variety of subjects.
- LaShawn Barber has finally moved her always insightful blog off of BlogSplat! While that is an effort in and of itself (having made the move myself, I can say with confidence that it gets better, LaShawn!), she hasn't reduced her level of blogging insight.
She has a revealing conversation about geneology and personal roots on both her new and old sites (and I've finally moved my comments from her old site to the new one). There's some fascinating roots for many of the conversation's participants.
- Michael Bowen talks about a physical exchange between noted New York Post columnist Stanley Crouch and visceral and mean-spirited reviewer Dale Peck. OK, Crouch bitch-slapped Peck after the latter said that Crouch's Don't the Moon Look Lonesome: A Novel in Blues and Swing is such "a terrible novel, badly conceived, badly executed and put forward in bad faith," that it's amazing the guy shows up on Charlie Rose.
- Ambra Nykol has the penultinmate part of her fascinating series of essays, Why I Am Not A Republican, where she boils the answer down to a single sentence: "Because Republicans are boring." She promises that the final part of that series is forthcoming.
- Juliette Ochieng and Prometheus 6 engaged in a verbal "meeting of the minds" this week both on her blog, and over on P6's, spawned in part by Juliette's Throwing Away The Crutches piece, where she addresses one of the inevitable questions put to conservative blacks in conversations far and wide: "What have Republicans/conservatives done for black Americans?"
The conversation (most of which is on P6's site), is far more even-handed than many I've been involved in on the subject, and is given far more context than most discussions of the type by the historical viewpoint that P6 brings to the table.
- Samantha Pierce looks to be on vacation this week, but her posts from last week include a rant on the loss of decent discourse between bloggers, with many conversations sliding into shouting matches and flame wars.
- Shay Riley talks about a story that has slipped by underneath the radar. Dr. Condoleezza Rice's friend and associate Jendayi Frazer has been confirmed as the new United States Ambassador to South Africa.
After running into so many people who insist that Dr. Rice does nothing for other blacks, I end up with the last laugh, as Dr. Rice has worked quietly behind the scenes to pull one of her associates up alongside her. Unfortunately the "soul patrol" will superficially see Ms. Frazer as yet another "black conservative" who has "forgotten her roots."
- Darmon Thornton talks about the 15-foot effigy of George W. Bush that ice cream magnate Ben Cohen is dragging around the country behind his car. The figure has the President in a would-be flight suit, and flames shooting out of the rear end. Cohen claims that Bush has lied about everything since he's been in office.
Darmon's right. Someone does have too much time on his hands. I'll stick with Breyer's, Edy's, and Mayfield ice cream, thank you very much.
- Avery Tooley discusses name calling, especially those names hurled back and forth among black liberals and conservatives.
I don't know about you, though - it's a bit difficult to imagine Thomas Sowell playing the dozens, but, as Avery reminds me, though he's well-reasoned and logical in public, behind closed doors, he might come back better'n all of us.
- Scott Wickham starts ticking off the "reasons" that blacks in general have for hating George W. Bush. After scouring a book he was referred to by a black liberal, (The I Hate Republicans Reader: Why the GOP is Totally Wrong About Everything by Clint Willis) he could only find four. That's right, four. I'm sure there are more reasons...aren't there?
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I would actually like to embarrass the mainstream by establishing (maintaining, actually) a tradition of respect between Black bloggers in conversations like the one Juliette and I had.
Posted by: P6 at July 24, 2004 06:59 AM (aiwIs)
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Our mamas raised us right.
Posted by: cobb at July 24, 2004 07:41 AM (2n6gK)
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Funny thing is that Jendayi Frazer isn't even conservative! Judging by her resume and perspectives that I've read, she is liberal. I seriously doubt that she's even Republican. However, Dr. Rice taught her at Stanford University and has hooked her up before.
And another one of Dr. Rice's friends, Constance Newman (who is conservative) is now the assistant secretary of state for African affairs, over in Colin Powell's shop.
So Dr. Rice is definitely going across partisanship to bring her associates further in the international relations arena.
Posted by: shay at July 24, 2004 04:02 PM (h3FX8)
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Great site. One thing - Stanley Crouch is at the NY Daily News, not the Post.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/col/index.html
Posted by: Mara at July 24, 2004 05:23 PM (GI2vx)
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July 23, 2004
President Bush at the Urban League
President George Bush
spoke at the Urban League's national convention this morning in Detroit. He was welcomed more warmly by that organizations' attendees than the NAACP's chairman and attendees would have last week.
In his speech, the President emphasized black entrepreneurship and working toward a true two-party system within black America working to solve the ongoing problems that exist in the black community.
Does the Democrat party take African American voters for granted? (Applause.) It's a fair question. I know plenty of politicians assume they have your vote. But do they earn it and do they deserve it? (Applause.) Is it a good thing for the African American community to be represented mainly by one political party? That's a legitimate question. (Applause.) How is it possible to gain political leverage if the party is never forced to compete? (Applause.) Have the traditional solutions of the Democrat party truly served the African American community? Does blocking the faith-based initiative help neighborhoods where the only social service provider could be a church? Does the status quo in education really, really help the children of this country? (Applause.)
Does class warfare -- has class warfare or higher taxes ever created decent jobs in the inner city? Are you satisfied with the same answers on crime, excuses for drugs and blindness to the problem of the family? (Applause.)
As I mentioned on the air yesterday, George W. Bush is far from the boogieman that so many people make him out to be. Those people would so much rather have divisiveness and derision in the community than ideas and possibilities and potential solutions. They would prefer the status quo, where an illusion of complacency leaves a bad taste in the mouths of people far and wide.
Conservatives in general, nor President Bush in particular claims to have all the solutions, but isn't it worth the time, effort and energy to discuss the possibilities and consider the alternatives?
Sadly, too many members of the "soul patrol" would prefer to vilify conservatives as the bad guys and paint them with the same sort of broad brush that so many racists have done to blacks for so many years. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, many of those "soul patrol" members don't know what compassion is. They would prefer to do wrong, just as they were wronged. They prefer to create a nefarious enemy where there is none. And they prefer to ignore and slap away the hand offered in friendship.
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right on the money and i wish more republicans would speak from the heart on these issues. it is obvious to me that the democrats take the votes of black people for granted and figure that as long as they continue to walk the walk, talk the talk of the stale democrat platform, they will have the overwhelming support of the black community. this irritates me to no end. i sincerely believe that the time has come for a frank discussion of full integration in this country. if the republicans led this discussion, i don't think the status quo of democrat control
would or could last.
Posted by: scott holmes at July 23, 2004 10:57 AM (dRv2H)
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I heard a few of the clips. I thought Bush was terrific. I liked his line, something like "Now Jesse, you don't have to nod in agreement THAT quick."
Posted by: Joe R. at July 23, 2004 04:34 PM (DHwcf)
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Most local news skipped Bush's questions for African American voters for coverage of protesters, but Channel 7 got Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's response. I think it deserves more attention.
http://www.wxyztv.com/wxyz/nw_local_news/article/0,2132,WXYZ_15924_3059222,00.html
Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was present and talked with 7 Action News. " I think that the absolute best statement made today was for African-Americans to ponder the thought whether or not African-Americans should be all lined up in one party, and what we get for that. I think there has to be a real cognitive discussion about that with the leaders and the communities in this country. When you talk about the President, he got 8% of the African-American vote, and he has 4 African-American people in his cabinet. Regardless of what people feel are their strengths and weaknesses, and how important they are, you have to ask the question of what he is doing for the African-American community and weigh that against when you vote for a democrat. I mean, it's a great discussion and I think that we have to have it, especially when the entire initiative in this conference is empowerment and the next wave of the civil rights movement. I mean, the African-American people really have to
have an agenda that speaks to those issues. And some of those issues may line up on both sides of the parties."
Posted by: aaron at July 26, 2004 07:59 AM (XtK9T)
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Doing even more radio
I'm scheduled to be on Rick Roberts' show on KFMB/San Diego later on this morning at 12N Eastern/9A Pacific for about an hour.
You can listen online by going to 760KFMB.com.
Of course, the subject is still the Project 21 press release from earlier this week that denounces Ted Rall's racist scrawlings against Dr. Condoleezza Rice.
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not that you need it but i just wanted to say thanks for sticking up for Dr. Rice. i have great admiration for her and i hate to see her treated so badly. i don't understand why the freedom of speech has turned into the right of anyone to degrade another human being. the tone of everything seems so harsh right now. what has hapened to the golden rule?
Posted by: scott holmes at July 23, 2004 11:40 AM (dRv2H)
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President Bush was on the mark at the Urban League. I'm glad the question is out in public. My answer is NO
Posted by: michael chadwell at July 24, 2004 09:02 AM (uyLYO)
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